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Dishley
Ausbass Member
Australia
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 Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 10:35:49 AM
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Someone I was fishing for bream with once told me that his mate used to have a few bass in a fishtank.
Apparently his mate told him that after sticking his thumb in the bass' mouth the fish would not feed for two weeks.
Now this is third hand info but I still took it on board and have been more careful handling bass since. Now it may well be that this particular person was rough with the fish or maybe his hands were particularly dirty on one of the occasions? Who knows.
I was just wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience?
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Ripper
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 9:43:26 PM
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I had a pet bass which I thumb gripped a few times to measure it while cleaning out the tank. Afterward it would sulk for a day or two, but it would do the same thing after I netted it too. I'd say fish probably don't enjoy being picked up in any way, but I wouldn't have thought it would affect them for that long.
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chili
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 05:24:19 AM
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| Thumb gripped many a fish out of tanks all ate again within 2 days, just dont' like being handled, lip grippers actually do more damage as they quite often puncture the skin, prefer to use thumb. |
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Dishley
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 3:06:10 PM
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Totally agree chili i'll never use grippers on them.
Thanks for your replies, I didn't think it'd take 2 weeks just thought i'd ask those that have first hand experience. |
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Dishley
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 6:32:42 PM
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Most of the damage done with lures is people stuffing around trying to remove them, or skull dragging them during the fight. Barbless hooks do bugger all damage.
edit: This post wasn't aimed at anyone, no need to remove your posts mate, just a few observations I have made. Keep looking after them and tight lines. |
Edited by - Dishley on 12 Jul 2010 7:44:26 PM |
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wildcountry
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 7:06:42 PM
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| very true, try to make it a habit to crimp the barbs. Makes removing it from fish and yourself a hell of alot less painfull. |
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RonR
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 12 Jul 2010 : 09:23:41 AM
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Agree fully with Dishley & Nick on barbless hooks and no need for lip grippers.
I wouldn't fish with blokes who won't crush the barbs. Apart from making releases heaps easier on the fish, barbless hooks can eliminate the need for a trip to hospital to get a treble out of an ear or finger.
And there are lots of pics around of good fish dangling from a gripper with the belly unsupported - not the way to handle any bass.
Ron
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Originally posted by chasingbass
never had a problem with lip grippers puncturing the skin, but i no lures seem to rip the mouth open pretty bad sometimes.
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fishlessmick
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 13 Jul 2010 : 04:37:34 AM
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I don't have a problem with the use of lip grippers as long as they are used correctly. I think more damage is done once the fish is griped,either by thumb or lip grip and then hung without support, "as stated by Ron" i think causes a bigger problem.
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Paul G
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 14 Jul 2010 : 1:05:05 PM
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Hey all,
something I found interesting if not amazing in regards to handled fish.
About 6 weeks ago, myself and a few mates headed to StClair for a quick morning fish. Upon arrival we found a school of fish holding in 20 - 40ft of water and just so happend they were on the job and feeding. Every fish caught needed to be vented before release (No I don't want to start debate on the venting issue) We kept two of these fish alive in the livewell to be translocated into my brothers concrete pond, which is about 4m in diameter and 1.4m deep.
These fish were handled (albeit carefully), thumb gripped, vented, left in the live well for approx 4 hrs, then endured the 60km trip home to be released into the pond, both of which started feeding on insects that very afternoon.
Both Bass are still going strong, goes to show the resilliance of these fish.
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benny88
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 14 Jul 2010 : 5:30:20 PM
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| Nice one. Thats quite amazing. Wouldnt the boofing keep you awake at night? Good little lure testing pond you will have there. |
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Dishley
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 14 Jul 2010 : 6:57:00 PM
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Now that just gets me wondering about the possesion limit. It seems strange that you can't have more than 4 in the fridge, but you can take as many as you want to throw in a pond.
The little mooney creek project got me wondering about this, the line on their website "we collected the largest fish we could find" was what got my brain ticking over. Where were they collected from? How is it legal for them to collect them from rivers for commercial gain? (assuming they are from rivers which they may not be)
Off topic but stuff it, it's my post :)
Thanks to anyone that can shed some light on my questions. |
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wildcountry
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 14 Jul 2010 : 7:47:52 PM
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Dishley, this is just my opinion and in no way is it an educated response. Since I have been a member on this site, I have found one thing to be clear. The rules and regulations that govern our sport are as clear as a sanitary plant, and when you pose a question to the authorities.... well, it seems many of them don't even know how to interprete them.
I actually had the same query when it came to the little mooney creek project. We all know how slow the growth rate is for our Bass, so where did they get them from? It may be legit, I'm not making accusations. Just wondering, that's all. And its not like there will be only a hand full of bass in the ponds too, quite sure there will be a couple of hundred or more.
Anyway, Im in your boat. Just wanna know.
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beats
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 15 Jul 2010 : 12:12:11 PM
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Pretty good idea they would have study & holders permits guys, its aquaculture for the study & bolstering of fish stocks anyway.
& its legal to take as many big fish as you want as long as from a river its only 1 over 35 at a time & a dam can be 4 of any size at a time (with 2 people)as for keeping them in ponds & dams its a grey area, but i'd say a special permit would be nessasary |
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Goodoo
Ausbass Member
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Posted - 21 Jul 2010 : 11:47:51 AM
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Good discussion. I wouldn't take grippers near any fish myself. Another thing not to do is lie any fish down on dry and/or rough surfaces before release. No dropping on the bank on dry grass, dry rocks, dry gravel, or a dry boat gunwhale or carpet for a pick. It damages the skin, leaves it prone to fungal infections. Bad for bass, absolutely terrible for the cod species.
cheers
Simon
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